The interview takes place in the large meeting room which Warfield had designed and installed at George Mason University for the purpose of conducting effective Interactive Management sessions. The room was named DEMOSOPHIA, it was on second floor of Thompson Hall at George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia. John N. Warfield, talks about ISM, the 6 Relational Statements, and the use of Graphics. He recounts the intellectual history which foreshadowed his development of ISM. He discusses such topics as Transitivity, Edges, Paths, Relation and Element statements and the importance of a Graphics Language for an accurate comprehension of problems such as "Cycles" inside Structural Models. This is the first of two videotaped interviews done by Hilary Austin, who was employed as a graduate student assistant at the Center for Interactive Management in 1986. The second interview was videotaped March 1986. Both videotapes are in Warfield Special Collection at Fenwick Library, in Box 66.THERE ARE ALSO WRITTEN DESCRIPTIONS of the interviews, IN THE TRANSCRIPTS BOX of the Warfield Special Collection. R.w. July, 2004. with added edits on 10 March 2007