In Warfield's VITA this presentation is listed as: “Demands of Complexity on Integrative Communications", panel presentation, 17th Annual Meeting, Association for Integrative Studies, Arizona State University West, Phoenix, Arizona, September 30, 1995. Panel members: John N. Warfield, Scott Cawelti, and Michael Litzelman. There was no document for this, which was a panel discussion with all three men contributing. I put the talk title in the database to have a record of the conference lecture. I did find one title page for a document used as a handout at the talk, So I am using that title page as my only record of the talk. The handout title page is DEMANDS OF COMPLEXITY ON WRITING AND RESEARCH (title page only). There was at one time a list of transparencies to go with this but I can't find them. Also, as noted on the handout title page, the same material was used as Chapter 10 of Warfield's book in progress titled “Complexity and Drummers.” So to know what was under discussion at the panel meeting, go to the manuscript “Complexity and Drummers” (it was never published as a book) R.w. 22 July 2013.